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Saturday, July 16, 2005

Tweedle Dee-Tweedle Dum and the new American Gestapo

Suddenly the the entrenched dogmatic party line Democrats all love the CIA, that most evil of U.S. fascist organizations. Responsible for murdering peasants from Chile to Angola to Vietnam and back. Responsible for smuggling billions of dollars worth of dope into this country since their inception after WW2, taking that job over from the OSS who revived the Sicilian Mafia, which had been done away with by Mousolini's Fascist government. These drugs have been distributed here amongst our own peasants notably the coke brought into the country in a joint endeavor of the CIA and the "Contra" death squads, formerly Nicaraugan dictator Samoza's brutal enforcers.

This sudden love of the CIA and it's long term extreme right agenda is of course for short term political expediency. Karl Rove and the exposure of Valerie Plame.

The Democrats have always jumped on Republican bandwagons but it has gotten worse with the decline of the Democratic Party, or the decline of the Democratic party has followed it's Republicanization. Take your pick. More workers were thrown out in the street during the Clinton administration than any Republican administration, more indigent welfare recipients lost their benefits and were thrown out in the streets and more people were moved from the streets to America's gargantuain prison system. This is the largest prison system on earth. No Democrat will address this issue any more than any Republican will address this issue. They live in the same Ivory Tower and live off the blood of the same peasants as each other.

Fuck the Democrats they are traitors just as surely as the Republicans are.

The police are just as brutal, corrupt and clueless as to actually protecting us in Los Angeles as they are in Birmingham. The federal government is just as brutal, corrupt and clueless as to actually protecting us from "terrorists" and other enemies under Democratic regimes as Republican ones. Both are willing to sit around debating inane things such as gay marriage and medical pot while planes fly into our populated areas on suicide missions that few can understand the motives for since none of the law makers and arm chair politicians would give their lives for anything. Certainly not their country or religion.

If you think the thinning veil of the Republican propaganda machine will lead to the end of the Republican fascist regime and reinstall the Democratic fascist regime revisit central America under the Readan (first Bush) regime; John Negroponte, death squads terrifying the peasants in the night dragging them off to torture, murder and display their mutilated bodies. Dead nuns, priests and suspension of even the crooked elections that were/are the usual fare there. The facade of democracy is surely about to disolve and be swept away. But not replaced by real freedom or democracy and freedom but the new SS; John Negropontes new internal American Gestapo. If you are looking to the Democrats to save us from the Republicans, forget it. Listen to Randi Rhoads if it makes you feel any better as I do. Sign John Conyers petitions as I do but don't expect democracy and freedom in your life time.

14 Comments:

At Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:49:23 PM, Elaine Supkis said...

Yah! Right on!

I said for years and years and years, disband the CIA and open their record vault. You should see MY files there!

You can't, of course, not even with the Freedom of Information Act. Ruppert tried, even. He couldn't.

To continue....when the students took over our embassy in Iran, they discovered paperwork by the ton detailing how nearly the entire embassy was filled with CIA operatives! Indeed, our Russian one, for example was ONLY CIA operatives. And the Russians knew this.

I used to joke, they know more about the CIA than our own Presidents. Until Bush Sr came along. Then I gloomily said, the CIA took over America. Then Putin took over Russia. Gads.

Hate them all.

But the stupid law Rove broke is one designed to stop CIA whistle blowers. It now is stopping a CIA manipulator trying to do a black ops job on America.

Fuck him!

 
At Saturday, July 16, 2005 6:50:25 PM, Elaine Supkis said...

Oh, and I am taking this to my GUEST BLOG! Luv ya!

 
At Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:18:14 PM, cosmic rays said...

Agree, noel. The spooks are too awful. We don't know 90% of what goes on, I'll wager, but what little does get revealed would seem to indicate that the CIA is more or less the security detail for the World Bank and IMF. It is so absurdly twisted, I don't know how it can be fixed, certainly not by adding yet another layer of "management".

It's made the world so much MORE complicated and uncertain - - - they were perfectly useless in preventing 9/11 - of course, maybe they were in on it - I have my favorite candidates for people who knew or were in on the planning - --A number of years ago in New York I had a cab driver who was ranting to me about how "your President" was head of the secret service, and it hit me like a ton of bricks. The President's background was as head of the American SS or KGB. People from other countries can see it so much more clearly than most of us.

 
At Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:35:07 PM, Elaine Supkis said...

Here is the Guest blog...got to share readers!

Noel Weighs in on Utility of CIA

Did a cartoon for it, too.

 
At Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:47:27 PM, PoorArt said...

Wow. What a lot of complex knowledge.

 
At Saturday, July 16, 2005 9:29:15 PM, noel adamson said...

I posted another comment, or thought I did but it got lost. I probably pushed the wrong button in my haste to get grocery shopping done.

The knowledge seems complex until you see the motive and repetive pattern poorart, then it is about at the same level as boys playing in the woods having rock battles except infinitly more vicious. At any rate there are two books I have read in recent months, "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll and "Pretext For War" by James Bamford that cover the CIA's activity in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc from the begining of the Reagan (Bush I) era through September 11th, 2001 and the the development of the pretext for the invasion of Iraq respectivly.

John Negroponte presided over the American "embassy" in Honduras during the death squad days in that region with the sub-human Batallion 316 ghouls, named for the chapter and verse from the book of John in the Bible terrorizing the night "disapearing" many, many peasants in their attack on freedom, democracy and human decency itself. "Leftests". "Liberals". Their victims included not only men, women and children but the four Mary Knoll sisters (nuns) raped murdered and thrown in a hole and a priest. The Honduran embassy was gigantic. The embassy John Negroponte helped establish in Iraq recently is also gigantic. This is the same John Negroponte who will now preside over the new American Gestapo.

 
At Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:49:23 AM, Richard said...

Some more sterling stuff, Noel. As per usual for you, of course.

It's great that Elaine should help you spread the word too.

Y'know, when enough people begin banding together and getting the truth[s] told to more & more people - the winds of change WILL start building to storm force.

Keep it up, friend[s].

 
At Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:17:12 PM, noel adamson said...

Yes Richard. All the money in the world will not be enough to keep them in power if no one will follow them any longer nor will the money have any value other than that which is imparted to iy by the population at large. Paper money and coins are only a promisary notes from corrupt and incompetent governments as it is.

Elaine is an angel, or a saint, but I think she bumped into the story about the 11 year old in Fresno first and that we are on parrallel tracks as you and I often seem to be.

 
At Sunday, July 17, 2005 4:13:40 PM, Steve said...

Thanks for linking to our blog at Distance, I have returned the favor. A very interesting take you have going on this Rove thing.

I must admit I have more faith in what the Democrats could do than you, but i liked reading your take.

-Steve

 
At Sunday, July 17, 2005 6:49:43 PM, noel adamson said...

The Democrats would be great if they get rid of the Republican wing of the Democratic party. Just knowing that how much the neocons still envy, hate and are at war with Roosevelt..FDR but also Teddy...is enough to give me pause to study a little of the history of that and appreciate what FDR did.

The Democrats just need to become Democrats again and the contrast this most insane and inane of administrations provides should contribute greatly to any effort to make that happen.

 
At Friday, August 05, 2005 6:13:45 PM, Anonymous said...

noel.. what a pathetic idiot you are!! If any of your airhead blogger pals find out about you; spousal abuse, no real military career, 51/50. I thank God everyday for people like you. Why, you ask? Because while you sit and play with your penis, people like me are running the World.
Bye Bye, dick head

 
At Friday, August 05, 2005 6:45:37 PM, noel adamson said...

Hi again my anonymous cowardly friend. I guess "again" since ditto-heads are, well ditto heads. You are not running the world in any way shape or form and the people you think are your friends are your victimizers. You are one of the suckers born every minute that P.T. Barnum mentioned.

As usual you can not answer even a single thing I have said and resort to an envious attack on me personally and for things that are not worthy of attack at all. Your "friends" as you call Bush Incorporated are running the world into the ground as they rape and plunder it and you can not argue that point. Not with facts, not with reason and not with anyone knowing who you are.

As for spouse abuse I don't know where you get that as my ex-wife moved next door to me. I'd give you her email address if you wern't such a vicious stalker. I have never been 5150ed, a legal code for arrest due to insane behaviour; I was deeply disturbed over killing 3 million Vietnamese people in my youth while in the military and anyone who would not be disturbed is insane my cowardly friend. Killing kids is not brave and all bullies are cowards as are the draft dodgers in the White House who should be hanged by the neck until dead as people like them were after the trials at Nuremberg.

As for my "blogger friends" who I suspect you are also stalking from the illusional safety beneath your rock, I have bored most of them with the sordid details of my private life for a few ywars now.

As for my penis in which you show endless interest, I have prostate cancer and very little sexual desire at this point. Possibly from the nukes I spent a lot of time sitting next to waiting for an order to fire them into Hanoi to incinerate their wives, kids, moms dads everyone...while blowhards like you sit around and obsess on zygots and other peoples wives.

 
At Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:37:30 AM, Anonymous said...

Noel.. well I guess I did start off a little angry however you do piss me off. As to me being anonymous I am sure that you know who I am . You, Me and your ex wife who we will call Kat used to sit in your apartment in Redway and smoke pot all the time and talk about this whole crazy thing you are doing to stay on ssi. It has taken me a number of years, most of my adult life to get my shit together but I am getting there. Not on the government dole anymore either. What is a ditto head? Sorry no TV as you probably recall I hate TV.

You asked for specifics so here they are:

You claim that the USS Chicago carried nuclear weapons at that time, it did not. People can easily verify this by contacting former members of the crew online as I have done. The Chicago typically served as a radar picket ship that had periods of inactivity at sea.

You claimed that you attempted suicide after years of standing 72 hour watches in the military. Again Noel you lied. I have contacted numerous military persons including corpsman that have told me that the worst was what is called port and starbord duty and that no ship would have only one FT onboard.

As to the spousal abuse Noel I have seen it first hand so you can’t bullshit me there. If your ex Kat lives next to you as you claim, I feel very sorry as the abuse probably continues to this day.

As to the 51/50, this was your scheme, think about the times that we talked about it. I noticed that your internet comments especially to veterans groups picked up dramatically about the time your money was going to get cut off and you were going to move. You took on a very radical tone implying that you really were crazy. Your comments about killing people do offend some of us veterans. I was discussing you with some vets from Garberville and they were quite shocked to see you writing such crap. You were never poised with finger on the button waiting to incinerate Hanoi, it simply is not so. If you have prostate cancer, I am truly sorry for you but it wasn’t caused by you sitting on a warhead as a stool in the cic.

I guess in closing I find it disturbing that you are “allowed” to spread whatever viewpoint you desire, but when I do it I am a vicious stalker. You asked for specifics, I have provided them. I hope that some of the young people that read your trash do their homework on you Noel. It is terrible to tell such gross tales to people that were neither born then or can fully understand the ramifications of that time. I am going to post this in a few places so that you can’t wipe out the truth. Come to Garberville sometime, you know how to find me, and if you truly are crazy let’s get you some help… J

 
At Sunday, August 07, 2005 1:16:23 PM, noel adamson said...

Hello again my multi-personalitied friend, "J" today, you have outdone yourself this time and I am flattered that you have become so obsessed with my "point of view" that you are doing all this to smear me. I blush!

"Ditto heads" is what cowardly drug addict and warmongering draft dodger Rush Limbaugh calls his far right wing followers because they gobble up the lies and half truths he propagates for the Republican party and their crooked corporate owners without question.

What you say about the Chicago is totally wrong and you could have seen this all on line as well as the information on it's armament and much of it's mission. Ditto heads also berate those who did serve while pretending they did as bellicose cowards Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly and the draft dodgers in the White House do and you know it.

You never smoked pot with my wife, by any name, and I in an apartment in Redway "J" as we lived in a trailer park and my posts on line picked up when the internet became available. My disability payment was not in jepordy even from attacks by the likes of you and I understood the envy and hatred of gutter snipes like you when posting on the internet with my real name so accepted the risks when I did post that information with the understanding of how poorly veterans are being treated upon their return from new invasions such as that in Iraq. Also to compensate for the intense feelings of cowardice I feel for what we did in Vietnam. You dicks would all just wear purple heart bandaids and make fun of them while sneaking them into Dover in the dead of night to conceal the true extent of the murderous nature of these greed driven oil wars. The only killing I have advocated is hanging the traitors at the top including Bush and that with a trial for crimes they have commited against the American people and humanity in general. I have also stated that we should have hanged Prescott Bush at Nurenberg along with the others who empowered Hitler in his war against us and most of the rest of the world. That was treason in anyone's books. My repetitive allusions to hanging traitors like this is in large part because they themselves are the greatest advocates for capitol punishment for the peasants. I would also point out that the U.S. is one of only a small number of countries that still has the death penality with your right wing fundamentalist friends in the mid east for close company and
China being the only one who really outstrips us in that department.

One more thing on the nukes we carried is that it was well known that a large faction of the extreme right wing of this country wanted to use them particularly on Hanoi. This is well known to anyone who has even a cursory knowledge of those times and the fact that the Chicago at least had the capaibility of carrying nukes and the ability to deliver them is also available to someone who would do a little better research than you have done so far. Port and starboard liberty has nothing to do with operating and maintaining a missile system in a combat situation.

The fact still remains that you can not respond to any of the facts I have posted here regarding politics. Even though it's scary stuff you might do well to think about them. It is not as complex as you seem to think my Young Republican friend.

I look forward to hearing more from you. Love and Peace, noel.

 

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